User talk:Vedui42

Unless you're going to add text to the pages detailing the procedures to go through, posting videos is not what the wiki is for. This is not a promotional site. DSquirrelGM (talk) 14:23, 29 January 2019 (UTC)

- This was extensively discussed with the wiki admins https://7daystodie.gamepedia.com/Message_Board, who strongly disagreed with this moderator use of powers and in no uncertain terms clarified DSquirrelGM was wrong, and should stop touching the content.

And of course, authorized (again) the use of the videos.

Full thread for posterity below.

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Moderator abuse by DSquirrelGM

To the Admins: Have for a long time been one of the few to create 7DTD guides, and with the lack of A17 content was starting to update some with video guides. This is something I've done for a long time here, and even had Graybeard reach out favorably commenting on a guide he liked. When I did this a week ago, instead I get my vid guides reverted by DSquirrelGM, get an immediate ban imposed, and told videos are not appropriate for the wiki.

At the very least, if the wiki guidelines are changed to NOT allow videos, put that in the guidelines, and give a friendly reminder. But to revert AND out of the blue ban me for doing what I've done before with the admin's awareness, is terrible behaviour. And to call my vids "promotional" when they're directly addressing a mechanic of some sort for the game, and thus directly relevant, is fairly amusing. No one does guides because there's few views compared to the effort, I added them as they cover mechanics people often ask about.

So maybe a real wiki admin can respond, as to whether videos now are no longer allowed, in which case I'm happy to stop contributing them as content. If not, a slapdown of abusive powers would be most appreciated. Thanks -- Vedui42

I have seen some of your videos and I don't know since when the video tutorials on this wiki have been banned and I see no reason why it should be. To consider a video tutorial as promotional when you are not selling anything and there is not advertising in that is IMO excessive. In thay way, we could consider the entire wiki as promotional of the contributors and we should probably... erase it completely?. I think it's no sense.

If the real problem is not to fill the articles with videos, (that is for organizational reasons), well, a multimedia section with all the videos and a links in the articles to this, could be more usefull and elegant instead of deleting the contents.

--— Magneto555 (talk) 20:42, 10 February 2019 (UTC)

To clarify, the problem is not that videos were added, but that no OTHER content relevant to the topic was added along with them. The user made no attempt to improve the page content by adding any sort of description to the pages, or even a writeup of what content was represented in the video. This sort of behavior is not considered to be constructive. The user was notified that if they wished to continue editing, they should actually edit the page text along with the video. This is also considered to be spamming links or self promotion, as noted in the block comment and on the profile comment. DSquirrelGM (talk) 05:10, 11 February 2019 (UTC)

DSquirrelGM, you are not the admin of this wiki and what you are doing here is not part of the GRASP mandate. Please stop arbitrarily applying your own rules to other wikis. — Game widow (talk) 14:08, 11 February 2019 (UTC)

DSquirrelGM It seems to me enough contribution the work making a videotutorial and adding it as content to the wiki is something to be thankful for and not to delete it. Also, a user can not be forced to expose their content in the specific way that you prefer. I have not seen any links to spam or self-promotion in the articles, and the user's profile are personal, so I think your actions was excessive.

Also the function of considering the rules of the wiki have been violated corresponds to the admins and not to the users, as emphasized Game widow. For that reason, please consult with the admins before to take your own actions againts users based on your own considerations. I believe that user videotutorials Vedui42 are constructive because they provide valuable information material for the wiki.

After these statements, I think it is clear what is our opinion and resolution.

"Video tutorials are welcome on this wiki." Vedui42 you have permission to recover your previous publications without any action against you.

--— Magneto555 (talk) 20:12, 11 February 2019 (UTC)

Thank you all, appreciate the support. I'm more than happy to engage in constructive discussion if some content is not appropriate. It's not as if I am an anonymous coward simply making random edits, and continue doing so despite being flagged and chastised for it. Getting a ban (even a temp one) without discussion or notice for something like this was very unexpected, so I'm very pleased to see the support and clarification. I'll go through and update relevant pages.

My personal view is that a mix of text, audio and video is the most engaging. To be honest, Subnautica probably has done it the best I've seen, with even I believe officially created videos for a lot of the wiki pages, which I thought was slick. Annoying as I loved the game and many/all the guides for it were already done, so not much left for me to cover, but I feel it worked great.

Thanks -- Vedui42 (Quick re-edit with my user ID, didn't notice I had been logged out as well :P - Vedui42

Thank you for participating constructively in this wiki. I'm glad that everything has been resolved favorably.--— Magneto555 (talk) 17:53, 18 February 2019 (UTC)